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Re: 1981 Mini City 1000

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Tacked in the floor patch panel against the tunnel.

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I have also tacked the side that will be butt welded

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M-machine panel didn't fit against the inner sill so I have made a relief cut and will put an additional patch in later.

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The flute in the M-machine panel is narrower than the original one so I have put in cuts that allows the flute to widen and reshape to the original floor.

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Plug welds have gone really well using a 6.5mm hole and a 3mm hole in the back of the other panel

It's a day's work to get it this far, but if you rush it, it will not come out well.

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What's the thinking behind the 3mm hole on the lower panel? Seems like it would blow through fairly quickly, quicker than if it was just the 6.8mm hole on one side?

I was less technical with matching the flutes on the repair panels lol, bashed them into shape with hammer and dolly...
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Hi Colin,

The 3mm hole was used with the Cleco clips that I used to align the panel. It helped to always put the panel back into the same spot when doing all the measuring and cutting. I just drilled out one side to 6.5mm for the plug weld. If you use your normal thin sheet welding settings then you won't blow through the hole.
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Ah I see now, I thought it was to ensure full penetration!
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I was wondering the same thing about the holes. Personally I'm a hammer and dolly man myself, you'd be amazed what you can achieve with a bit of practice
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Started welding up the tacked floor panel this evening

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Always easy to blend a butt weld when it's on an outside curve

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Finished up just after the first inside flute this evening

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A splash of etch primer to keep it clean until I get to body prep

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I think I am going to run out of gas soon so will need to order another bottle of MIG gas
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Latest updates on the mini

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Finishing off the floor of the passenger side.

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I might weld up the drainage holes like I have done else where.

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I have a good bit of spare time between now and the end of the year so I am going to see what I can get done. Next up is the driver's side.

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Great welding as usual, barely visible even in primer!

Should be ready for Sunday's show in Portlaoise?
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colinf1 wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:51 pm Should be ready for Sunday's show in Portlaoise?
Haha I wish.

I started the cleanup on the driver's side today.

I have discovered that HG rust remover is brilliant at cleaning up rusty panels. It contains Phosphoric Acid and when applied from a spray bottle 1:3 mix and agitated with a brush it removes the rust in minutes. Obviously, PPE required. I might use it on all the existing spot weld joints to kill off any hidden rust.

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Slowly working the drivers side floor panel into place.

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The garage has been a bit chilly the last few days. With a couple of hours here and there you can make progress. I do have a propane heater for it when it gets really cold. Anyway on with the work.

Final cut out of the floor

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Strengthening the corners of the M-machine panels before fitting

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Final weld thru primer before bracket welded on

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Starting to tack the repair floor panel into the floor. I work one side at a time to allow for expansion in as many directions as possible

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Working my way across the floor

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The inner wing will be repaired afterwards. The blocks of wood are used to screw the self-taper screws which squeezes the panels together.

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More progress on the drivers side floor repair panel

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Really nice welding done there.
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Am always jealous of anyone that has the skill and patience of doing their own welding. Fair play.
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Thanks Woody and Billy.

Back at it today

Started cleaning up the other side of the panel

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weld through for the pinholes that I missed the first time around

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Happy New Year everyone!

The drivers side floor is now in place and all the welds are ground back.

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I still have to complete a repair on the bottom of the inner arch.

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I forgot to weld this joint on the passenger side but will get to it tomorrow

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I had to make a small incision in the welded corner so the flange of the inner floor could join up with the inner wing. It will be welded up later.

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From underneath, not bad, not as smooth as a fresh panel, but I'm happy I am retaining as much of the original car as possible.

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The inner wing that needs to be repaired next

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I noticed the e-coating protection on this heritage panel was quite lumpy. I wasn't sure if it was just excess e-coat or something else, anyway, I started sanding only to reveal loads of surface rust on the panel. Sanded back with 100 grit and then treated with a phosphoric acid solution.

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Has anyone else found this issue and how do most people prepare the panels before painting with epoxy?
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This is what I am talking about. Surface rust under the bubble.

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I have started applying epoxy primer to the skins and frames of the boot and doors before assembly. My first day spraying on the boot skin and frame was hit and miss. I got a few runs but can sand it down when it is fully cured. My big mistake was not predicting that the panels would start spinning around once I pulled the trigger on the spray gun... and I wasn't able to hold my position with the gun ... doh!

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The other mistake was underestimating the volume of paint required. I originally only made up 100mls for the boot and I needed another 200mls. All learning of course.

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I also finished off the inner wing repair section that joins to the driver's side floor.

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Weather was great today so was able to apply some epoxy outside (too messy indoors) on the door hinges, boot hinges, rear valance and the closing panels under the front wings.

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I will need to scrape some of it off and apply weld through primer before spot welding but as you know some areas are not accessible after they are welded in place. Hopefully the epoxy will protect it for a long time.

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To improve air quality for painting I have added this 1/2 inch T piece between the regulator and inline lubricator for the air tools. I have a separate air hose only for painting and have kept the connector (pcl) different from all the rest (euro) to avoid the air hose getting contaminated.

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A little bit more of the epoxy primer was completed this morning. No runs this time.

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I spray it outside and then bring it into the garage to cure. This way I don't get the overspray all over the inside of the garage.
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While the weather isn't great at the moment, I managed to get a few hours of sunshine this morning that allowed me to get a first coat of epoxy primer on the door frames.

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It's taking a while to dial in the settings of the spray gun but I am getting close. Last time the paint had too much orange peel, so I closed the fan by half a turn, kept the pressure at 25psi and brought it a little closer to the panel. I have a few runs unfortunately but the wetter application is much smoother. I will sand out the runs and apply a second coat where I missed or rubbed through to the metal.
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Hi Conor, looking good as usual! You'd hardly be too bothered about the runs if they're inside the door frame?

Don't forget the seam sealer around the inner edge of the door skin/frame before you fold over the edges
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colinf1 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 5:42 pm Hi Conor, looking good as usual! You'd hardly be too bothered about the runs if they're inside the door frame?

Don't forget the seam sealer around the inner edge of the door skin/frame before you fold over the edges
Agree, the runs on the in side are not an issue. Yes I picked up a tube of tigerseal to do just that. Everyday is a learning day :D
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