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poor handling any help?
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:06 pm
by denisg1973
hi ive a 99 mini cooper every thing replaced from bushings bal joints radius arms shocks the works , tracking on front a1 , camber on rear at 0 but feels very wandery on roa like driving on ice , any ideas or help b great thanks
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:42 pm
by The Marcos Graveyard
Steering arm to hub bolts ok ?
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:56 pm
by denisg1973
yes every thing new and all checked a few times case there was anything left loose , its sort of fish tail effect wouldn't trust past 40 miles an hour , its very strange
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:12 am
by DaveC
Subframe mountings?
What size wheels are you using?
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:02 pm
by denisg1973
came with 175 ,50 , 13 it cooper sportpack . all subframe mounts and new or poly bushed
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:51 pm
by Billy
Have you adjustable cones? Are they set too high? As a rough guide, the distance between the centre of the wheel and the bottom lip of the wheelarch should be 30cm.
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:35 pm
by denisg1973
ya they are , but I on way to brands hatch for weekend , so when I get home ill measure them and see thanks for advice
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:34 pm
by vincieshile
I had the same or similar problem. No one could solve it until one day someone pulled back the carpets and discovered the 4 bolts holding the steering rack were loose, very loose. How they became loose no one knows. Hasn't happened since.
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:03 pm
by denisg1973
that could be it as body shop that painted had rack off and I never checked that , wll do Monday thanks again
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:25 pm
by joebe1
That defo a probable cause, check the splines on the steering column, with big wheels they will fail, when u turn the wheel it will slip over the splines on the rack, also check the floors where the front subframe is connected, make sure there are no cracks
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:53 am
by denisg1973
new floor pans and rack fitted when restoring at xmas , thanks for help though tried the ride height it 29.7 cm , re tracked was ok steering rack bolts all tight colum not slipping either but car still the same ,
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:41 pm
by woody
I take from another post that you changed the diff, what did you put in?
What make and size tyres and are they at the right pressure?
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:46 pm
by denisg1973
didn't change bought brand new engine and box complete in uk , bought the car with everything in a box but crank shaft missing , so was easier replace the lot .tyres continental 175 50 13 , tried from 26 psi down to 22 , still handles same , its grand one direction but after bout 50 mph it feels like drivin on slippery surface wet or dry
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:43 am
by woody
What spec engine and box, would it have a limited slip diff?
Anybody else using the continentals in this size?
Was the car driving ok on this engine and box before you changed the suspension parts?
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:04 am
by joebe1
bad wear on the radius arms, or camber brackets loose, are the wheels tight? Check the front bottom engine steady, the subframe cracks there,
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:55 am
by dayoungfella
Check the toe on the rear of the car.
If the rear is toed out it can make the car feel very unstable. Ideal road settings would be toed in 1/16 inch.
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:07 pm
by Dylan8660
Can you be a bit more descriptive of the handling problems, you used the phrase 'fishtailing' would this be like oversteer, pushing out at the rear, or is understeer more of a problem? or is it more of a chaotic front end wandering and a snatching steering wheel? did the handling problems come on suddenly or gradualy?
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:18 pm
by denisg1973
don't know how to really explain , it just feels like car rear end gets light after 40 mph , is there any where within 100 miles that able set up for me

Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:28 pm
by Billy
Try Mike Lyons in Miltown Malbay. He specialises in restoring Minis.
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:37 pm
by denisg1973
I did he helped in restoration of car , he thinks it drives ok but I just wouldn't trust it feels drifty ,
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:00 pm
by Dylan8660
In the absence of any obvious play or misalignment of the rear subframe and its componants it may be worth checking the rear brakes for drag and the cylinders for sticking. If the cylinders have never been replaced then for the small price it could be worth doing just to rule brake drag out.
My sportpack once had a sticky left cylinder that gave me some quite spectacular right hand cornering, it took me a while to find the cause, those wide wheels don't put enough pressure on the road letting things slip a little bit easier.
Re: poor handling any help?
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:23 pm
by denisg1973
sound thanks ,brakes are a bit tight on back when I brake it locks on back quicker , ll play around withj them hopefully will solve issue