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So its about time i got a start on this, Had this kit a while but im just finished college for the xmas so il have a bit more time to work on it. I know there is a lot of work to do to get it working right and its no way a 'bolt on job' so il give it a shot and see what can be done.
kit consists of:
-m45 supercharger with cooler.
-small front mount for cooler
-decompression plate + 2 head gaskets
-duplex timing set
-omex ecu and loom and a few other tings.
pump for front mount cooler
The engine im going to attempt fitting it on has 60000 miles, standard, spi, regularly serviced and will hopefully will be able to handle the extra power.
Had it dynod to see its putting out 65bhp, adding chager would be hoping for 100bhp.
Before i start i know there will be a number of problems that il run into iv looked into these and hopefully they will be overcome,
1-sensors and ecu
2-air conditioning
3-NCT:
4-feuling
5-vaccum pipes
6-Brakes..to be upgraded,
7-Insurance and family members
and there will be more as time goes buy im sure..
Any comments or information someone may have will be welcomed
il keep updated with progress, it may be slow but weel see how i get on.
kit consists of:
-m45 supercharger with cooler.
-small front mount for cooler
-decompression plate + 2 head gaskets
-duplex timing set
-omex ecu and loom and a few other tings.
pump for front mount cooler
The engine im going to attempt fitting it on has 60000 miles, standard, spi, regularly serviced and will hopefully will be able to handle the extra power.
Had it dynod to see its putting out 65bhp, adding chager would be hoping for 100bhp.
Before i start i know there will be a number of problems that il run into iv looked into these and hopefully they will be overcome,
1-sensors and ecu
2-air conditioning
3-NCT:
4-feuling
5-vaccum pipes
6-Brakes..to be upgraded,
7-Insurance and family members
and there will be more as time goes buy im sure..
Any comments or information someone may have will be welcomed
il keep updated with progress, it may be slow but weel see how i get on.
Last edited by ian o B on Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Cool Ian can't wait to see this goin, hope the lads are treating ya well over on TM, theres a few there already, why did ya go for twin head gaskets and decompression plate over dished pistons or lower cc head? think I've a few bits from my turbo project if ur stuck,
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sounds like its an interesting project,
would i be right in sayin this could venture in to a theses project in collage?
would i be right in sayin this could venture in to a theses project in collage?
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Interested in following this, is that an oil or water cooler,, wheres the pump?
Are you sticking with injection or going to carbs?
Good luck with it.
Are you sticking with injection or going to carbs?
Good luck with it.
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a nice project, i'm assuming ye went decompression plate to save taking out the pistons? personaly as kenny said i'd advise dished pistons over decompression plate but its up to you mate..... are ye fitting a centre main strap?
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thanks kenny..not going as far as changin pistons as of yet, might get head machined later tho
jason.. u might be right, if i get that far in college is another story tho
woody, its a water cooler tho seems identical to oil cooler, have electric pump for this,
hoping to stay with the injection
davey..centre main strap i no the dished pistons would be the right job.. but for now il use the plate,
jason.. u might be right, if i get that far in college is another story tho
woody, its a water cooler tho seems identical to oil cooler, have electric pump for this,
hoping to stay with the injection
davey..centre main strap i no the dished pistons would be the right job.. but for now il use the plate,
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that is brilliant, do ya mind me asking how much it set ya back?
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quick update on this,
Have the air-con out, the radiator, exhuast and inlet manifold have been removed so i trial fitted the charger to see what sort of space il be left with...not much..but enough hopefully
Have the air-con out, the radiator, exhuast and inlet manifold have been removed so i trial fitted the charger to see what sort of space il be left with...not much..but enough hopefully
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Now have Removed the head and fitted the decompression plate and the 2 headgaskets, gave the block, plate and head faces a quick clean, need to get a compression tester tomorrow to make sure the compression has been lowered enough.
Im wondering should i torque down the head a little more than i would if i was only torqueing down one gasket??
Im wondering should i torque down the head a little more than i would if i was only torqueing down one gasket??
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When you torque a head the 50lbs is designed to crush the gaskit a specfic amount so does fitting two gaskets half this therfore requiring 100lbs? Think you may have to look at somewhere like turbominis.com for more information or contact the manufactorer of the decompression plate.
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woody wrote:When you torque a head the 50lbs is designed to crush the gaskit a specfic amount so does fitting two gaskets half this therfore requiring 100lbs? Think you may have to look at somewhere like turbominis.com for more information or contact the manufactorer of the decompression plate.
Il look it up on the turbo mini forum, will let yano when i find out.
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Not getting as much time at this as i hoped but went fitting the duplex timing set today.. placed the two sprokets to check alignment.. had to remove a few packing washers to get them in line, All was good until went to put on the chain the sprokets would not line up because of this bolt in the way of the chain..
anyone know if it would be ok to remove this bolt or what its for??
anyone know if it would be ok to remove this bolt or what its for??
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first question..... have you got the timing gear on the right way around? looks to me from the drawings (http://www.somerfordmini.co.uk/eshop/in ... age&id=114) that the longer side faces the engine..
edit: that bolt holds the plate to the block. you need it. trust me on that one.
edit: that bolt holds the plate to the block. you need it. trust me on that one.
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for the duplex ian you have to countersink a hex bolt into it, search for it over on TM its common practice
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Kenny is correct, you always have to countersink the bolt to use the duplex chain set.
I hope it's a vernier kit you got.
I hope it's a vernier kit you got.
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Ah i see now, hadnt time to look into it on lunch il have to search more before asking in future
have it in the right way around alright,
yes vernier kit im fairly sure neil
have it in the right way around alright,
yes vernier kit im fairly sure neil
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I think u may also have to modify the timein chain cover also
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Its the norm to replace the bolts with countersunk screws to clear the chain
ALL YOU NEED IS POWER AND LOADS OF IT!!!
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Time for a quick update on this, with a week off college had some time to make some progress..,
had removed the engine and fitted a minispares 4 pin diff
took a while to sort a problem with it but ended up sanding the fibre washers to get the diff to free up
got the bolts countersunk for the duplex timing chin
timing cover had to be modified for duplex timing chain and oil breather was in the way of charger belt, so it was removed and a piece of metal was welded to cover the open hole left behind.
not the best looking welds but should do the job bit off sealer and some black paint to tidy it up, new oil seal and itl b fine
exhuast manifold heat wrapped to help keep everthing a bit cooler,
lots of work still to do so il keep at it and keep this updated.
had removed the engine and fitted a minispares 4 pin diff
took a while to sort a problem with it but ended up sanding the fibre washers to get the diff to free up
got the bolts countersunk for the duplex timing chin
timing cover had to be modified for duplex timing chain and oil breather was in the way of charger belt, so it was removed and a piece of metal was welded to cover the open hole left behind.
not the best looking welds but should do the job bit off sealer and some black paint to tidy it up, new oil seal and itl b fine
exhuast manifold heat wrapped to help keep everthing a bit cooler,
lots of work still to do so il keep at it and keep this updated.
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Keep up the good work ian andkeep taken loads of pics
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Must get back to this, , a year on now finding it hard to get time to it with work other cars and college.. waiting for a class atm so i sed id pop on and write a bit, forgot where i was but sure a quick update now lots of pictures to come,..
After a few months of wiring and a new crank sensor theres power goin to the ecu, have spark and petrol so all the signs are there.. got a cable and the software for the ecu need to sit down when iv an hour or two free and plug it in get the omex system set up to HOPEFULLY get it running rough so it can be mapped.. it all sounds so easy but sure it never is
il try not to leave it so long againbut sure weel c how things go anyway.
After a few months of wiring and a new crank sensor theres power goin to the ecu, have spark and petrol so all the signs are there.. got a cable and the software for the ecu need to sit down when iv an hour or two free and plug it in get the omex system set up to HOPEFULLY get it running rough so it can be mapped.. it all sounds so easy but sure it never is
il try not to leave it so long againbut sure weel c how things go anyway.
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