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Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:13 pm
by StanO'Toole
I'm getting sick of asking questions on whats wrong with Stud but here we go again. Was driving along and I starting losing power, then she went completely. I then tryed starting it again and the ignition lights came on but after that nothing, it wouldn't even turn over. We tryed jump starting it, checked all the cables to the coil, and to the battary. Still nothing. Any ideas?

I worked it out, every three days something happens to Stud. Got him back after the gearbox re-build and three days later a relay went, fixed that, three days later he went in a ditch in Cavan, and now three days later this! What more can possibly happen? :shock:

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:23 pm
by keith
if its an SPi, check the cut-out switch on the firewall near the wiper motor.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:36 pm
by dayoungfella
Battery could be gone or it may not be charging properly.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:41 pm
by daniel garry
dodgy battery maybe, the fuel cut off switch has caught me out a couple of times!

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:10 pm
by StanO'Toole
I forgot to say I checked the fuel cut-off switch. And if it's the battary I don't understand why it cut out while I was driving? I was doing 30k because I looked down as the car started to jerk

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:16 pm
by dayoungfella
The engine needs the battery to run. If the battery wasn't holding charge, or being charged by the alternator...the engine would cut out. The battery could have enough charge to power the dash lights but the starter motor needs a load of power to turn the engine over when trying to start it.

It's possible that the cold weather has damaged the battery...has been known to happen.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:19 pm
by Kenneth Murphy
the cold killed taras battery in the teg

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:53 pm
by gareth
When you say you tried jump starting do you mean with jump leads if so I doubt it battery. Try giving it a push start. Get someone to push you with the ignition on and have your foot on clutch and in 2nd gear and when they get bit of speed up lift clutch.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:10 am
by miniireland
fuel pump maybe or dirty fuel.....

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:10 am
by StanO'Toole
It was jump started by jump leads off a friends Corolla.

Gareth - It was push started (or atemted) in 2nd, 3rd and reverse and it was like the engine wanted to kick in but it just didn't?

MiniIreland - Fuel pump or dirty fuel, it does really matter because engine isn't turning over anyway.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:24 am
by The Marcos Graveyard
Do you mean it's seized Stan ?

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:21 pm
by miniireland
StanO'Toole wrote:It was jump started by jump leads off a friends Corolla.

Gareth - It was push started (or atemted) in 2nd, 3rd and reverse and it was like the engine wanted to kick in but it just didn't?

MiniIreland - Fuel pump or dirty fuel, it does really matter because engine isn't turning over anyway.
faulty ignition switch, wire off starter motor, starter motor solenoid ,get it to a mechanic................

WEBCARS REALLY DID HAVE A BIG WINDOW...........


SELL THE FCUKING THING .....ITS JINXED......welcome to the wonderful world of minis........ :D

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:33 pm
by Kenneth Murphy
i'm tinkin the same as miniireland...

SELL THE FCUKING THING .....ITS JINXED......welcome to the wonderful world of minis........ :D

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:08 pm
by StanO'Toole
The Marcos Graveyard wrote:Do you mean it's seized Stan ?
It's not seized when I was pushing it the wheels did not lock up when I tryed to jump it.

I was told to look to see if it has a good earth on the battery and if that fails it's back to BERT it goes.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:00 pm
by StanO'Toole
Kelly's will be deploying a truck in the next hour or so, so Stud will be on the way to BERT's soon enough! (again) :roll:

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:33 pm
by kona
Can you hear the solenoid click when you turn the ignition?

Get a multimeter on the battery and see what it reads, under 11.5V and thats your problem most likely.

If it is you altenator cud be nackered.

Id agree with the lads to sell it, no point in paying 3.5k insurance if you cant drive the bleeding thing. Its costing you almost e10 a day in insuance, and when your not driving its a bit of a waste.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:47 pm
by mad-mini
the mini doesnt like u and it wel keep breakin down on u, so sell it and buy a mini with a carbed engine in it at least u wil be able to sort out the problem easy enough.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:14 pm
by neasha
You should leave your car with Paul Kelly sometime Stan. Berts good as well (He did some good work on mini last week,saw your mini down there:D Very happy with it)
I had alot of trouble with my engine always breaking down for various reasons when I first got it, Tried about 5 mechanics who would temporarily fix things and they would always break again or something else would go.(Huge waste of money) The point is that Paul got his hands on my mini once and it never broke down again.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:25 pm
by StanO'Toole
neasha wrote:You should leave your car with Paul Kelly sometime Stan. Berts real good aswell (He did some good work on mini last week,saw your mini down there:D Very happy with it)
I had alot of trouble with my engine always breaking down for various reasons when I first got it, Tried about 5 mechanics who would temporarily fix things and they would always break again or something else would go.(Huge waste of money) The point is that Paul got his hands on my mini once and it never broke down again.
Seen your Mini in BERT's also dude. Looks cool and really clean! I can get my hands on a carb engine and I no it won't pass the N.C.T but I don't really care to be honest, I don't need it unless I give them a reason to pull me over!

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:32 pm
by miniireland
StanO'Toole wrote:
neasha wrote:You should leave your car with Paul Kelly sometime Stan. Berts real good aswell (He did some good work on mini last week,saw your mini down there:D Very happy with it)
I had alot of trouble with my engine always breaking down for various reasons when I first got it, Tried about 5 mechanics who would temporarily fix things and they would always break again or something else would go.(Huge waste of money) The point is that Paul got his hands on my mini once and it never broke down again.
I know it won't pass the N.C.T but I don't really care to be honest, I don't need it unless I give them a reason to pull me over!
until you crash or your car is stolen and your insurance is classed as null and void...COP ON STAN.....

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:42 pm
by StanO'Toole
`So your telling me I'm not insured unless the car is N.C.Ted? I believe your thinking on the U.K dude.

Went up to Enniskerry to see this! :lol:

Never a good thing that your tow truck can't move!
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Getting closer to freedom but,
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we started causing a bit of traffic! :lol:
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The people weren't really happy about there front garden!
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So there Stud lies for another night :roll:
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All in all though it was a fun night! Even though a have no car to drive you just have to love these Mini adventures! :lol:

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:48 pm
by StanO'Toole
Would it possibly be an earth on the engine somewere?

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:04 pm
by miniireland
StanO'Toole wrote:`So your telling me I'm not insured unless the car is N.C.Ted? I believe your thinking on the U.K dude.
no "I'm" not, THE LAW IS ,

"YOUR INSURANCE COULD BE CLASSED AS NULL AND VOID SHOULD YOU BE INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT OR YOUR CAR IS STOLEN"

LEGALITIES OF N.C.T.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categ ... l_car_test

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:37 pm
by kona
Holy god!

If thats the luck stud brought to your tow, I dont think he should come on any runs :p .

What Exactley works on the mini?
Do you have lights? Do you have your radio? Do you have petrol?

There is no reason why he wouldnt go through the NCT on a carb thats well set up and with the cat on the back.

Re: Won't turn over?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:44 pm
by keith
miniireland wrote:
StanO'Toole wrote:`So your telling me I'm not insured unless the car is N.C.Ted? I believe your thinking on the U.K dude.
no "I'm" not, THE LAW IS ,
"YOUR INSURANCE COULD BE CLASSED AS NULL AND VOID SHOULD YOU BE INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT OR YOUR CAR IS STOLEN"
LEGALITIES OF N.C.T.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categ ... l_car_test
i think the important word here is COULD I've not read the small print of my policy, and although *some* insurers require a valid NCT to commence cover, but i don't think it applies to all. For instance, in the unlikely event of my car failing its NCT, the insurance does not lapse as i wouldn't be able to drive it home or to the mechanic's!
it sure pays to be certain though where you stand with insurance.