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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

Post by Miniman »

A rollcage would be a good idea and would give you that strength you need :wink:


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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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macker wrote:i would tend to agree!

from past experience of cutting a roof off a mini without any strengthening bars in place when you open both doors at the same time and step in, thats it! body folds in two!

you need a lot more strengthening in a mini convertable!
Miniman wrote:A rollcage would be a good idea and would give you that strength you need :wink:
Thx, mates. We definitely do not want a rollcage. No real point in a convertible with a rollcage. Maybe with a British Open or the likes.

So what would you add? Strutbars?

Any suggestions (even crazy ones for the sake of argument :P ) appreciated!
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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i think what was suggested to me was to add bracing bars inside the sills and then through the front and rear of the floor!

i couldnt tell you how it turned out as it never went any further
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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Just look at the E30 BMW Baur edition. It's a convertible but still as the side windows as such, a bit like having a cage. It doesn't look great, to me at least.

I'd see if you can get a look at someone else's convertible, see where they are structurally strengthened, there has to be at least on here? Roll cage to me would be against what a convertible is, a nice cruising machine, not something I see being raced around. (All just my opinion)
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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If you check the online panel catalogs they should show you where the extra strength was added for the Lamm and Rover Cabriolets.
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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The Marcos Graveyard wrote:If you check the online panel catalogs they should show you where the extra strength was added for the Lamm and Rover Cabriolets.
Hmm, apparently the Lamm cabriolet had just a strengthened B post and an assembly from that point on half-height to the rest of the C post:Image
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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From what I remember there was also a fair bit of strengthening to the sills and a second cross member in front of the rear seat.
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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Ok, folks, we had visitors the other weekend, but after that we (incl. Steven for another day) got some work done:

I removed the heater, due to a stuck valve (WD40 works wonders) I got this:
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Pictures before the last welding:
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and after it:
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one evenings worth of work on the roof:
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some detailed shots:
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and the worst of the rest:
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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how you gettin on with the car marc???
did i leave some tools there by the way? :?:

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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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D_3m0_n wrote:how you gettin on with the car marc???
did i leave some tools there by the way? :?:

steven

the car is with the spray painter ATM,

and yes, you did leave some tools: some files, your broken grinder (brushes worn, I checked it), and a grip or two

I was expecting a call since you said you're near Dublin once in a while...

to all the others: I'll put up some pics this weekend, promise!
(we have been busy, PIL visiting...)
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marcexec wrote:
D_3m0_n wrote:how you gettin on with the car marc???
did i leave some tools there by the way? :?:

steven

the car is with the spray painter ATM,

and yes, you did leave some tools: some files, your broken grinder (brushes worn, I checked it), and a grip or two

I was expecting a call since you said you're near Dublin once in a while...

to all the others: I'll put up some pics this weekend, promise!
(we have been busy, PIL visiting...)
exciting stuff then so... 8)
how much is the painting costin ya??

yea i thought i left them there alright... :( wasnt sure cuz im always buyin tools and theres so many in the garage already i wasnt sure ... havent been near dublin in a good while il give ya a buzz when i am and il come check out the mini too :)
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

Post by marcexec »

As promised some newer pics:

A Mini in a Cage (the trailer cover fits perfectly):
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the strengthening bars (40x40mm, ~68cm long):
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Steven did a pretty good job there, didn't he?

Before the car went to the spray painter, we removed most of the paint and applied some of the Epoxy Mastic on the floor from the inside and cleaned, epoxied and waxoiled the front wing undesides.
A lot of work, but not much to look at, so we don't have pics.
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some new pics:

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Just an update: it's actually driving again!
We took it for a spin to the Gas Station yesterday - after I bleeded the brakes and the clutch.

There is still a lot to do, most importantly the roof...
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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

Post by marcexec »

Jus to give you guys a well-deserved update:

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Still some work to do, though. Mostly rubber parts, including cones. Exhaust needs new mountings. Painter overtightened a bolt - no big deal.
In total ~200£ from Minispares...
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nice to see the final result, she's looking very nice indeed, those seats are class...
is the wife happy? 8)

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Re: Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust - Full body restoration

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just_st3v3n wrote:nice to see the final result, she's looking very nice indeed, those seats are class...
is the wife happy? 8)

steven
Yes, she most definitely is!
Thanks for your help again - you did a good job!
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nice job on the mini, would you not use photobucket for your pictures, that popup on your hosting site is really annoying
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No popups here from that hosting site.

Looks great and in time for the summer
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great to see your finished she looks really well....
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looking very nice!!!
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Re: Tinkerbelle - was: [Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust]

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She is not looking so nice any more.
We had an accident:
http://www.irishminis.ie/forum/viewtopi ... 451#p40400

As we bumped into Rebecca's Mini - sorry again!

The result on our side:

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We were able to limp home but this will be some work!

To cheer my wife up we decided to add one thing or the other, which will be documented here!
Project: Tinkerbelle 1.5!

The most important thing is to repair the damage, but we are playing around with some ideas/upgrades as well:
- adding head- and foglights (the small ones, 5.5"?), might hide some of the creases
- HiLos to get the proper ride height for the 13" wheels

any suggestions welcome
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Re: Tinkerbelle - was: [Our '84 Convertible Pile of Rust]

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In the meantime we obviously got her fixed again - looks the same as before :roll:

A new clutch went in as well.

The reason for posting is that we passed the NCT without any complaints!
The tester definitely had a weak spot for Minis...
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