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Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 am
by keith
Clockwise will richen the mixture.

here is a list of needles, carbs and cars:
http://www.minimania.com/web/DisplayID/ ... ticleV.cfm

here's more good stuff:

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/in ... pic=114176

you will find more info using Google....

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Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:18 pm
by rhys mate
got the needle out (finally) and its a BDR which on that site keith showed me says it is suitable for a 1380 so maybe thats why shes running so rich :lol: thanks for that keith!! :wink:

Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:41 pm
by keith
the diff. needle does *NOT* explain how the idle is so poor. like i mentioned earlier, *any* needle can be made idle.... if you look at the graph below (thanks to the good guys at http://www.minitylamb.co.uk)
the diference between the two needles is not great until you get up to high acceleration or high revs. the idle/cruise part of the needle, typically the first 1/3 is very nearly the same, in fact the BDR is a tad leaner in parts. to me it does *NOT* explain those high readings at the NCT.
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Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:01 pm
by rhys mate
im pretty sure the jet and the small bimetallic gizmo is knackered?? apparently they get worn out after 55000 miles or so? ive ordered a BDP needle (minisport recommendation) and repair kit for it and ill borrow a gas analyzer and set it up properly!! i hope i haven't wasted money though???
the reading from the NCT were taken at 700 rpm!!

Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:10 pm
by keith
rhys mate wrote:im pretty sure the jet and the small bimetallic gizmo is knackered?? apparently they get worn out after 55000 miles or so?
not heard of that before.... *but* im new to HIF's.
rhys mate wrote:ive ordered a BDP needle (minisport recommendation) and repair kit for it and ill borrow a gas analyzer and set it up properly!! i hope i haven't wasted money though??? the reading from the NCT were taken at 700 rpm!!
i'd have borrowed the analyser and set it up first, then decided if i needed to replace stuff. but, still cheaper than splashing out for a new carb!

Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:12 pm
by rhys mate
i live that mintylanb site it brilliant haha!! one thing thats worrying is it says the BDP needle is richer?? nightmare!!

Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:24 pm
by keith
AFAIR the reading is taken at idle for your car... like you said,.. @ 700rpm.. *any* needle will do at that speed. all the ones we talked about will get u through at idle.

Re: metro engine

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:34 pm
by rhys mate
ok cool thanks i mill for the help well appreciated!! bloody mini's haha!! wish i had a HS carb!! :lol: ill try get my hands on an analyzer and see what i can do to get it right and swap needles to see how i get on!! cheers keith!!